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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: erin</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-144717</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I too, have heard of this 5 minute grace period.  Fight it!  The worst situation would be a rejection of your not guilty plea.  You don't have to go down to the dmv.  Just say that you watch read 8:58.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I too, have heard of this 5 minute grace period.  Fight it!  The worst situation would be a rejection of your not guilty plea.  You don&#8217;t have to go down to the dmv.  Just say that you watch read 8:58.
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: wow</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-135266</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-135266</guid>
					<description>Wow, $1700 apartments, car payments, and insurance.
You guys must be making a great living to afford all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow, $1700 apartments, car payments, and insurance.<br />
You guys must be making a great living to afford all that.
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: sKILLz</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-130793</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-130793</guid>
					<description>I would give it a shot. Even if you dont win, at least you tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I would give it a shot. Even if you dont win, at least you tried.
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-116043</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-116043</guid>
					<description>Hi.  I have a question.  I was issued a 6 point speeding ticket on 4/12/07.  The officer recorded my information down on the ticket but there is one minor error.  On the ticket he wrote my zip code as 11368, but on my license it clearly says 11366.  Is there a possibility that I can have this ticket dismissed?  Thanks for the time guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi.  I have a question.  I was issued a 6 point speeding ticket on 4/12/07.  The officer recorded my information down on the ticket but there is one minor error.  On the ticket he wrote my zip code as 11368, but on my license it clearly says 11366.  Is there a possibility that I can have this ticket dismissed?  Thanks for the time guys.
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: Mike</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-109547</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-109547</guid>
					<description>I am not double parking. I was ticketed for not moving the car for street cleaning from 9:30am to 11am.  The truth is that I went to move the car at 9:30am but the ticket is aleady there for 9:32am. So is their watch accurate ? Can I dispute? Anyway what they do is very sneaky.

It is $45. I do not  have time to go to the court and dispute.  But I really do not want to check the 'guity' checkbox on the ticket in order to pay the $45.   

Any suggestion ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am not double parking. I was ticketed for not moving the car for street cleaning from 9:30am to 11am.  The truth is that I went to move the car at 9:30am but the ticket is aleady there for 9:32am. So is their watch accurate ? Can I dispute? Anyway what they do is very sneaky.</p>
	<p>It is $45. I do not  have time to go to the court and dispute.  But I really do not want to check the &#8216;guity&#8217; checkbox on the ticket in order to pay the $45.   </p>
	<p>Any suggestion ?
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: Frank</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-17639</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-17639</guid>
					<description>I recieved a ticket for double parking, but was never parked. No officer gave me a ticket-so I have to assume it was done from camera. the road was conjested so my wife ran out to get burger king and returned to the van. If the car is running and occupied is it double parking,especially in slow to non moving traffic? It was a conjested construction area (White plains rd/Peham pkwy)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I recieved a ticket for double parking, but was never parked. No officer gave me a ticket-so I have to assume it was done from camera. the road was conjested so my wife ran out to get burger king and returned to the van. If the car is running and occupied is it double parking,especially in slow to non moving traffic? It was a conjested construction area (White plains rd/Peham pkwy)
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: bored at work</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-500</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-500</guid>
					<description>Uh, lets see here.  Double-parking is illegal.  The City gives people a break (when they feel like it) b/c they know how hard it is to park so they let it slide during alternate side parking.  But there is no grace period for illegal parking. As to the argument that its &quot;only&quot; $45 for alternate side, but $115 for double-parking, you run the risk of being towed for any violation, so you are gambling if you dont move at 8 or 11 or 2.  

The agents suck, and they have no mercy.  They are all working against a quota, and you were easy pickings.  Walking to work yesterday at 8:01, I saw cops doling out tickets to every car on Douglas Street that missed the 8 am target.  

If you have the time, go plead the ticket down at Borough Hall.  You may catch a break on the fine, or if you are really lucky, the ticket is flawed and it will have to be dismissed.  Much less likely if written with one of the electronic gizmos, but worth the shot.  It will not take 8 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Uh, lets see here.  Double-parking is illegal.  The City gives people a break (when they feel like it) b/c they know how hard it is to park so they let it slide during alternate side parking.  But there is no grace period for illegal parking. As to the argument that its &#8220;only&#8221; $45 for alternate side, but $115 for double-parking, you run the risk of being towed for any violation, so you are gambling if you dont move at 8 or 11 or 2.  </p>
	<p>The agents suck, and they have no mercy.  They are all working against a quota, and you were easy pickings.  Walking to work yesterday at 8:01, I saw cops doling out tickets to every car on Douglas Street that missed the 8 am target.  </p>
	<p>If you have the time, go plead the ticket down at Borough Hall.  You may catch a break on the fine, or if you are really lucky, the ticket is flawed and it will have to be dismissed.  Much less likely if written with one of the electronic gizmos, but worth the shot.  It will not take 8 hours.
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: mae</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-422</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-422</guid>
					<description>ggg:  why don't you just go back to SF?!</description>
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: renee</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-420</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 18:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-420</guid>
					<description>something similar happened to me.. i was parked on a street where street cleaning started at 8am.  I was there at 8 am and the cop was already writing the ticket, he said he already put it in the system. I fought it on the website and it was reduced by a few dollars.  At that point you have the option to pay the reduced fine or don't do anything.  If you don't pay it, the ticket goes to a judge.  You run the risk of paying the full fine but you can also get the whole thing taken away.  I decided not to pay the reduced fine and I won the case.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>something similar happened to me.. i was parked on a street where street cleaning started at 8am.  I was there at 8 am and the cop was already writing the ticket, he said he already put it in the system. I fought it on the website and it was reduced by a few dollars.  At that point you have the option to pay the reduced fine or don&#8217;t do anything.  If you don&#8217;t pay it, the ticket goes to a judge.  You run the risk of paying the full fine but you can also get the whole thing taken away.  I decided not to pay the reduced fine and I won the case.</p>
	<p>Good luck!
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: ggg</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-418</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-418</guid>
					<description>Well, I sure don't wish a $115 parking ticket on anyone! I feel terrible for you that you have to either pay up or deal with fighting the ticket. That is a drag on all counts. I totally understand the misery of racking up tickets; one time in SF I got a $250 ticket for parking too close too the bus stop. Grrr. 

But then, i also cheered when jerks who blocked my driveway, or parked on the sidewalk (a crazy illegal San Francisco parking hell move) got ticketed. Hmmm..... Maybe I have a secret career as a meter maid ahead of me. 

So why should there be a grace period on a practice that is already a three hour grace period? The fact that the parking people look the other way for those 3 hours and allow people to doiuble park with immunity is pretty cool. Don't take advantage of it, I guess. 

Thanks for showing me that it is actually a great neighborhood solution; I am glad that you helped me see it in that light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, I sure don&#8217;t wish a $115 parking ticket on anyone! I feel terrible for you that you have to either pay up or deal with fighting the ticket. That is a drag on all counts. I totally understand the misery of racking up tickets; one time in SF I got a $250 ticket for parking too close too the bus stop. Grrr. </p>
	<p>But then, i also cheered when jerks who blocked my driveway, or parked on the sidewalk (a crazy illegal San Francisco parking hell move) got ticketed. Hmmm&#8230;.. Maybe I have a secret career as a meter maid ahead of me. </p>
	<p>So why should there be a grace period on a practice that is already a three hour grace period? The fact that the parking people look the other way for those 3 hours and allow people to doiuble park with immunity is pretty cool. Don&#8217;t take advantage of it, I guess. </p>
	<p>Thanks for showing me that it is actually a great neighborhood solution; I am glad that you helped me see it in that light.
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: fin</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-417</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-417</guid>
					<description>why not just move your car when your required to... 5 minutes prior. if you're lucky enough to be home to do this... then i have no sympathy. i have to move my car to a spot thats good all day... sometimes to red hook. in fact, i dont understand what all you people do, who aren't at work... wtf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>why not just move your car when your required to&#8230; 5 minutes prior. if you&#8217;re lucky enough to be home to do this&#8230; then i have no sympathy. i have to move my car to a spot thats good all day&#8230; sometimes to red hook. in fact, i dont understand what all you people do, who aren&#8217;t at work&#8230; wtf.
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: Sandra</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-415</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-415</guid>
					<description>Now, while I consider myself a law-abiding citizen and (somewhat) buy into the 'rules were created for a reason' schtick, I absolutely disagree with ggg. There *should* be a grace period, by all means, if only five minutes. That's easily the discrepancy between one person's clock and another! And that's got nothing to do with law-breaking, it's got to do with realistic courtesy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Now, while I consider myself a law-abiding citizen and (somewhat) buy into the &#8216;rules were created for a reason&#8217; schtick, I absolutely disagree with ggg. There *should* be a grace period, by all means, if only five minutes. That&#8217;s easily the discrepancy between one person&#8217;s clock and another! And that&#8217;s got nothing to do with law-breaking, it&#8217;s got to do with realistic courtesy.
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: Tam</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-414</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-414</guid>
					<description>Well GGG,
I'm going to have to disagree with you. Infact, I think that it is actually kind of wonderful that the neighborhood pulls together to orchestrate a workable solution to the lack of parking in the area, and the fact that it would be virtually impossible for everybody to move to an alternate side space. This is why I was especially frustrated with my 2:02 ticket. The entire street pulls together for a solution but the parking agent is still completely inflexible. 

I live on 2nd place and there is actually no honking or shouting or anything. People just quietly move their cards back and forth - the silent dance of the double parked cars.

I've also decided not to fight the ticket because I can't afford 8 hours at city hall. And, based on the feedback I've gotten - when it gets down to it double parking is illegal, so while i could fight it, i was still illegally parked for 3 hours. That said it DOES tick me off that the ticket for NOT Moving your car at all is $45 - and by trying to do my part and arriving 2 minutes late i got a $115 ticket. OUCH. 

Oh, and last but not least - the next day I got a ticket for my expired (by 2 weeks) inspection. It just wasn't my week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well GGG,<br />
I&#8217;m going to have to disagree with you. Infact, I think that it is actually kind of wonderful that the neighborhood pulls together to orchestrate a workable solution to the lack of parking in the area, and the fact that it would be virtually impossible for everybody to move to an alternate side space. This is why I was especially frustrated with my 2:02 ticket. The entire street pulls together for a solution but the parking agent is still completely inflexible. </p>
	<p>I live on 2nd place and there is actually no honking or shouting or anything. People just quietly move their cards back and forth - the silent dance of the double parked cars.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve also decided not to fight the ticket because I can&#8217;t afford 8 hours at city hall. And, based on the feedback I&#8217;ve gotten - when it gets down to it double parking is illegal, so while i could fight it, i was still illegally parked for 3 hours. That said it DOES tick me off that the ticket for NOT Moving your car at all is $45 - and by trying to do my part and arriving 2 minutes late i got a $115 ticket. OUCH. </p>
	<p>Oh, and last but not least - the next day I got a ticket for my expired (by 2 weeks) inspection. It just wasn&#8217;t my week.
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: ggg</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-413</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-413</guid>
					<description>I love this site, but I am sorry, I think you deserve the ticket! You were double parked, it was past the time allotted, and that is that. 
I live on Henry street, and I can't stand the fact that everyone double parks during street cleaning hours. While another poster above said that people sometimes leave their phone numbers on their windshield, I do not find that to be the case on my block. Inevitably, on every street cleaning day, the air is filled with honking and shouting from cars that are blocked in. and people usually double park too far from the other legally parked car, not leaving enough room for the UPS truck, or a moving van. Twice a week there is a mini traffic mess on my block, and i think it sucks! 
I lived in SF for many years (with its equally draconian parking and street cleaning situation), and I was shocked when I moved to Brooklyn and saw the double parking situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I love this site, but I am sorry, I think you deserve the ticket! You were double parked, it was past the time allotted, and that is that.<br />
I live on Henry street, and I can&#8217;t stand the fact that everyone double parks during street cleaning hours. While another poster above said that people sometimes leave their phone numbers on their windshield, I do not find that to be the case on my block. Inevitably, on every street cleaning day, the air is filled with honking and shouting from cars that are blocked in. and people usually double park too far from the other legally parked car, not leaving enough room for the UPS truck, or a moving van. Twice a week there is a mini traffic mess on my block, and i think it sucks!<br />
I lived in SF for many years (with its equally draconian parking and street cleaning situation), and I was shocked when I moved to Brooklyn and saw the double parking situation.
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 		<title>Comment on 60 second freak&#8217;n grace period! by: rick</title>
		<link>http://423smith.com/index.php/2006/03/23/60-second-freakn-grace-period/#comment-405</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>go to nyc.gov/finance, you can dispute your case online.  Tell your story, that you acted in good faith and the judge will most always reduce your ticket.  You will not get out of paying, but at least you will not pay full price.  Always dispute a ticket, most small business delivery trucks get tix for double parking and they get all of their fines reduced, so why shouldn't you.  I would be very surprised if your ticket is not reduced, keep us posted.  Good Luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>go to nyc.gov/finance, you can dispute your case online.  Tell your story, that you acted in good faith and the judge will most always reduce your ticket.  You will not get out of paying, but at least you will not pay full price.  Always dispute a ticket, most small business delivery trucks get tix for double parking and they get all of their fines reduced, so why shouldn&#8217;t you.  I would be very surprised if your ticket is not reduced, keep us posted.  Good Luck.
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